Episode 150: The Biggest Mistake First-Time Fund Founders Make in Year One | Story Snacks Series

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Six months into launching your fund and already feeling like you're making every mistake in the book?

You're in good company. That's exactly how the founder who wrote in is feeling. And honestly, year one can do that to a person. 


The chaos is real. The second-guessing is real. The wondering-if-anyone-will-ever-take-you-seriously is very, very real.

In this Story Snack, Stacy Havener tackles the fear that tends to sit underneath all of it:

"I'm too early to be taken seriously."


It's not irrational. It's just not the whole story. And if you believe it too hard for too long, it might be the thing that keeps you invisible when you could be building real conversations.

Listen in to hear:

  • The year-one myth Stacy calls BS on: “don’t market until you have 3 years of track + $100M–$200M AUM”

  • Why year one gets derailed more by business decisions than investment decisions (products, partners, hires, marketing choices)

  • Who you should be talking to early (innovators + early adopters) and why they don’t play by the “come back later” rules

This is Story Snacks, a bite-sized, jam-packed series for fund managers who are ready to master strategic storytelling in under 20 minutes a week

 

TRANSCRIPT

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[00:01:57] Great question came [00:02:00] in to the podcast team, and it's a raw one, my friends. This one's got some, some vulnerability baked into it, and I really appreciate this person sending it in. So let's unpack it in a snack. Uh, "I'm six months into launching my fund, and I feel like I'm making every mistake in the book."

[00:02:21] Hmm. Yeah, I feel seen. Um, "What's the single biggest mistake you see first-time founders make in year one that I need to avoid?" Again, super honest, great question. There are a lot of things that we could talk about here because there are a lot of pitfalls. I don't even wanna say mistakes, but just pitfalls on the journey, especially in the early days of the journey, that can derail you.

[00:02:47] More often than not, and this is actually true any year, not just in year one, more often than not, the things that derail a boutique or an emerging manager [00:03:00] are not investment related at all. They're actually business related. And I think this comes from the idea that we haven't been entrepreneurs before, typically.

[00:03:15] We start a business because we're really good at a craft, and that craft is investing, but we've never been an entrepreneur. Maybe we worked at a big shop and, like, all the stuff, so to speak, was taken care of by loads of other people who knew how to do those things. And now we're sitting in a seat where, like, we did it because we're good at a craft, but we gotta figure out all the other stuff that goes into running a business.

[00:03:42] And I'm not just talking about, like, keeping the lights on and does the printer have paper and that kind of stuff. Like, that's child's play. I'm talking about big decisions on what products to launch, who to partner with, who to hire and when, what target [00:04:00] market to focus on. How are you gonna do your marketing?

[00:04:02] Are you gonna hire an expensive salesperson? Are you gonna get a third-party marketer? Are you gonna do it yourself? It's like, when you really stop to think about all the things and mental load that a founder is carrying, there are a lot of big decisions that can put you on a path that may or may not be the most successful one.

[00:04:23] So I think in general, those business entrepreneur bigger picture decisions typically can derail a fund manager, and that's really at any, in any year. But I wanna talk about something, it's not really a mistake. Again, it's more of a pitfall, but I think it's something I see often in year one, and I want to encourage you not to fall into this.

[00:04:52] And it's that we buy the l- I was gonna say the load of crap. It's not a load of crap, it's just unfortunately not [00:05:00] entirely true. We buy into this idea that you need three years of track and 100 million, 200 million, pick your AUM number, before anyone will take us seriously. So we start our new firm, and guess what we do?

[00:05:16] Nada. We don't market, we don't really, like, tell anyone. We just sort of, like, set up the shop, start punching stuff into our Bloomberg and building our portfolio because we've been told to wait. I disagree with that with a lot of passion, because in my career, I have seen firms raise really good money in year one.

[00:05:43] Really good money. And there's a reason And there, well, there's a couple reasons. The first is, if it's year one and you're being brave and you understand the Rogers adoption curve, and you're targeting innovators and early adopters who like you, by [00:06:00] the way, they don't have those rules that we just talked about.

[00:06:03] That's not how they play. They are happy to have the conversation with you. If we go to them and we tell our story, "I was here, I ran $2 billion, and it was awesome, and it was a great place, but here's what, you know, philosophically, there was a break, and I decided I need to set up my own shop because I wanted to do something different."

[00:06:26] And you explain what that different is. And you have no money except your own, and you got no track record. I don't wanna say that they're buying hope, 'cause they're, they're, they are buying hope a little bit, and that's a little bit of that early stage type of investing, generally speaking. But it's calculated hope.

[00:06:44] They are listening to you and what you're building. They are processing the risk/reward of that. They are determining if they believe not just in your ability as an investor, but in your ability as an entrepreneur. And the fact that you don't have [00:07:00] numbers actually helps. Because let's say you waited to have that conversation, and you waited until you had two years, and the two years are complete shit.

[00:07:13] But maybe it's even like it makes sense because value's been, like, getting smashed and you're a value investor, and so it's just blowing up in your face. But nevertheless, the numbers are shit. Now they have data that they can analyze. They're kinda like, "Oh no, I don't wanna catch a falling knife. This sounds like bad news bears.

[00:07:33] I'm outta here." Whereas if you are really looking for people who believe in you and your philosophy and your process and what you're building, if you get to them when you start, then they become more partners than clients, if that makes sense. And they're ride or... N- I mean, I don't know if they're ride or die, but they're definitely ride with you, right?

[00:07:54] Through some good times and some bad times, and hopefully more good than bad. So I think it's not [00:08:00] the biggest mistake, but the danger is to not market and not get out there and have conversations when you start because somebody told you along the way that you need three years of track and X dollars in your fund, and I'm just here to call BS on that.

[00:08:19] Get out there. Tell your story. Find those early adopters. Tap your founders network. Do not sit and wait. I hope that helps. Let's be real. No one wakes up and says, "I can't wait to build some operational infrastructure today." You're here to manage money, to build something that lights you up, not chase down reports across five systems and 15 service providers.

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[00:10:10] The information is not an offer, solicitation, or recommendation of any of the funds, services, or products, or to adopt any investment strategy. Investment values may fluctuate, and past performance is not a guide to future performance. All opinions expressed by guests on the show are solely their own opinion and do not necessarily reflect those at their firm.

[00:10:30] Managers' appearance on the show does not constitute an endorsement by Stacy Havener or Havener Capital Partners

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Stacy Havener

Stacy Havener is a blue collar girl from a working class town who leveraged her literature degree and love of words to revolutionize an industry dominated by men obsessed with numbers. At the age of 30, she founded Havener Capital to connect boutique asset managers with early adopter investors. She has raised $8B+ for new/ undiscovered funds that led to $30B+ in follow-on AUM. How? By telling stories.

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